Palestinian protesters clash with Israeli occupation soldiers in occupied Bethlehem last night in support of Palestinians in Gaza.
— Khaled Juma, a Palestinian poet from Gaza (via redphilistine)
as simple to say “Israel are 100% in the right and will always be in the right”, otherwise the world would have taken action long, long ago. Please don’t lie to us or yourself. Please answer this and if you actually say something thats unbiased then ill be on your side.
“Just out of principal.”
You don’t know what you’re talking about.
As a Palestinian, living currently under ISRAELI OCCUPATION, having lost friends and literally my entire childhood to Israel, you’re asking me why I then hate people who directly support my oppressors? Do you think everyone has your privilege of being far and detached and unaffected?
"The Palestinians are being oppressed by the Israelis, murdering children and stealing their land" is EXACTLY what is happening. Do you understand power dynamics and structures?
I’ll make things really simple for you: When the Palestinians do anything, it is in response to a brutal occupation and the ethnic cleansing we’ve been facing for the better part of a century now.
When the Israelis do something, it’s to uphold their military occupation. It’s to uphold the status quo and their ethnic supremacy at our expense.
There are worlds of difference between these two, and don’t you ever dare equate them.
It is not complicated in the slightest. It’ actually very simple, and the mystification of the “current situation” has been an Israeli tactic since day one. If you go back in history, a 5 year old could tell you that a bunch of fresh colonists establishing an ethnocracy at the expense of the indigenous population is point-blank wrong, by any standard.
You’re incredibly naïve if you think the world would ever take action based on “justice” and not interests. Is that really your standard for morality? Did the world take immediate action with regards to Apartheid South Africa? Algeria? No it took ages for them to move a finger, and it was the efforts of the indigenous population that resulted in victory, not a complacent, apathetic world.
Your problem is, that you seem to think that you’re so much more sophisticated and enlightened in taking this detached non-stance. Such positions only reinforce the status quo and the narrative of the side with all the power. I don’t need or want your condescending “support” on our side. We have history on our side, we have the solidarity of all decolonizing and marginalized peoples on our side, and the truth.
And a few dozen years down the line, when Israel is just a bad memory, remember this conversation. Remember that you stood and squabbled on the sidelines, like all “objective” middle grounders.
Just like the middle grounders on ending child labor, the middle grounders on women’s suffrage, and the middle grounders on the civil rights movement.
600 Palestinian deaths in Gaza, .0375 of its population. Equivalent to:
Are these pro-Israelis blind in addition to them being Apartheid apologists?
Have they not seen all the protests and demonstrations in solidarity with Syria across the years?
In any case, this is a really roundabout way to call pro-Palestinians antisemitic. Their logic is that, since there are “worse things” happening than Israel’s treatment of Palestinians, yet people still remain focused on Israel, that means that this focus is unjustified and must stem from a special hatred for Israel.
This is such a popular tactic used by pro-Israelis. It is also the most transparent and empty.
If they had one inch of political savvy, they’d understand that it’s also damaging to their cause. Because with this statement, they are comparing Israel and Syria’s actions and putting them in the same category. This is an implicit recognition that Israel commits massacres and crimes against an unarmed population.
By saying this, they are not denying that Israel commits crimes, but are just pissed that they are getting bad press about it.
I hate to compare tragedies, but let’s just say for arguments sake, that Palestine is the lesser of all tragedies in the world. So what? Can you quantify injustice? Is a small bit of injustice okay?
If you were caught for stealing, and were brought to the court, and your only defense was “Well Bob over here stole more than me, so you giving me a sentence is discrimination.”. Do you think that defense would work in any capacity?
If someone has committed worse crimes than you, are your crimes suddenly forgiven?
Pointless distraction tactic, through and through. Don’t fall for it. It’s funny, them resorting to this kind of childish argument shows how little legitimacy Israel has.
I have figured out the one and only justification for going to that stupid fucking White House Iftar:
Now things are clearer. Hamas was able to kidnap one of the soldiers encroaching on the Al-Tufah area in Gaza.
This is a HUGE slap to Israel, as the whole operation started in origin as a way to pacify Hamas and end any kidnappings from ever happening again.